It would be better if somebody come out and say, "Look, you're never going to work no more." They're talking about some kind of board is going to say what plants is gone and what plants is going to stay open. It's time for them to do this, because as long as I'm in Catalina - and a good many more like me - if nobody says your plant is never going to open, you're going to hang on to this little bit of hope. Until somebody tells you different, you got to.

There's a lot of problems around here and most of it is money. You turn on the news and you hear about all the money the people are getting on TAGS. But not very many of the plant workers are getting a high rate on TAGS. A lot of people were getting their cheque, but there wasn't enough money to go around. Their bills were more than their cheque. So there was a little bit on this and a little bit on that, and all of a sudden everything was adding up and they couldn't make ends meet. We were successful in getting a personal credit counselling service set up in Bonavista, and there's a lot of people taking advantage of that. We worked long and hard to get that set up.

We're after dealing with a few women who were abused that didn't have anywhere else to turn. Maybe they came here because I am a woman and I am with the union. Just a while ago this girl let me listen to a tape of a call that came to her house three o'clock one morning. I didn't know who it was, and I'm going tell you, the hairs stood up on me arms. It was just like I was sitting down in the kitchen of this man and honest to God, it was unreal. And I was thinking, "How much of this is going on that you don't know about?" It's only the scattered one that you knows about, because it takes a lot for somebody to tell you about this. Most people hides it.