The man looked at me and he said, "I guess I just blew it."

I said, "Yes, you did."

And the same thing when I do some of the marketing. But in the States it's different because the States accepts it, no questions. When my husband took over after I went back to school, the guys from the States would phone and say, "I want to talk to Denyse."

He'd say, "Well I'm sorry, Denyse has gone back to school. Can I help you?"

"No, when is Denyse coming back?"

It seems to be more accepted from the Americans than from the Canadians.

Within the next year we will be expanding. We're looking at secondary product or just upping our production level. We may get into smoked, or it could be bottling, or it could be just something done into a vacuum pack.

The down side is that it's very hard not to talk business when the family is together. There are times when you have to separate the two. Business can't be everything. Not only just for me, or my husband, but the kids need it too. They've got a life too that we've got to be part of. And of course, the other down side is financially.

Nothing is easy, and it's all uphill. Hopefully one of these days everything will even out.