One man said, "Some women really don't mean no when they say no." All the women in the group and one of the men disagreed with this statement. The rest of the men agreed with it.

One of the men suggested that a men's group should be formed. No one supported his idea that night. Although he did talk about forming a men's group several times in the following months, it did not happen.

The following is what some of the men wrote about the women's group.

The women like privacy.
Some women feel comfortable without men.
Sexual harassment and thing like that.
by George

Women and men
We work together at ALFA
So I do not understand about
the womens' group.
by Bertram

Women them slaves
Men we slaves too.
by Louis

Wherever you go in the world
It have all kind of group
in all country you go
In Canada have plenty
women organizations.
by John

Some events since forming the women's group and the January 1992 discussion:

• There was a long discussion at one of our Board meetings about women coming to the ALFA group at night. The Board members talked about safety and self-defense courses.

• Sexual harassment was highlighted as an issue for ALFA at the Program Planning meeting in February 1992. One male student said, " All men are ," in suspicion unless we name who the harassers are." Others wanted to know, "What is harassment?" A Sexual Harassment Committee was set up. It consisted of three male students and one female staff member. The Committee met, did some research and developed a statement and draft policy for ALFA.

• There was a series of three theme discussions about "What comes between people?" "Problems with the system," and "Who should have rights?" These are some of the things that came up in the discussion. In reference to the media's focus on an Anglican Church priest who was challenging the church about gays' rights to become priests, one man began with "All gay people should be sent to the oven." One of the discussions took place during Mike Tyson's trial. A number of the men thought that Tyson had been set up. They did not believe the woman and felt it was her fault for going to his room.

• ALFA formed an Anti-Racism Committee which has a student, a tutor, and a staff member on it. This committee met and produced a draft statement and policy and a project proposal.