2-1 What do we do when we begin
to talk among ourselves as women
A group of nine women students from a community college on the
west coast is sitting around a table with one of their instructors and myself.
We have agreed to meet for the next three days from 10:15 to 12:15. The sun is
coming in through a wall of windows as we head into the last half hour of
discussion for this first day. Already, we've gone round the table with
questions like-
- How did you know there were classes here at this campus?
- What kind of changes did you have to make in your life in
order to come?
- Did anyone help you make some of these changes?
- What surprised you about the classes?
Now an instructor, who is facilitating the group, talks a bit
more about how I have come to find out about women's experience with upgrading
programs. She asks us to think about how their experience, as women, might be
different from the experience of the men who are at the college. It is clearly
a difficult question and there is not a lot of response. Finally, one of the
women says, "How would we know the difference?" Other women laughed in relief
as they reflected back the statements, "We haven't been men. We don't know what
their experience is!" Also, some words and body language said, "We haven't
thought of ourselves as women here, different from the men."
Towards the end of the second day, the instructor asks the
question:
- Do you think this group would be different if there were men
here?
There is an immediate vocal and body response to this question
with many of us laughing, making faces and moving around.
There is much less hesitation around this question-partly
because it is a more concrete question and partly because we've discussed being
women for two days now. We feel free to agree and disagree with each
other-despite our differences in age, race, culture and formal education.
Do you think this group
would be different if there were men here?
- I think it would be extremely different! I think that
a lot of us would shut up! I don't think we would be as open as we are in
talking about the things we've been talking about Because... they're men.
- Maybe because you start to feel like they might not
understand. It's like sometimes you're talking about certain things you just
don't want to talk to men about. Because sometimes women just like to talk
among themselves. I'm sure men are the same way. Because they feel sort of self
conscious too in opening up their problems. They talk to other guys all the
time. Or to their friends.
- Well usually when you're in a group discussion women
are more apt to be more open... I think it's just because the way you feel, you
feel a bit more uptight maybe... You talk about how they're going to react... I
feel a lot better in all-women groups just because you think well, she
understands how I feel about it, just because she is a woman. Because she's got
the same problems maybe. Just even though she's a different kind of person. You
think, she knows how you feel. It's just easier talking. You feel more
comfortable because they're the same as you.
- I like it better in a mixed group, really... Sometimes
these men, it's good for them to know our problems. It's nice to be able to
understand men, to tell them how you feel. Sometimes I think there's not enough
communication between people. They do have all the same needs and wants. They
do have all the same problems really.
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